Vladimir Zhobov
Malevo/Asg 2
1 (b) [0:01] I have been practicing this craft since childhood, [indeed] my whole life,
this sg m med adj | craft sg m | acc m 3sg clt | practice 1sg pres I | from | child pl adj | year pl f | still adv | through | entire sg m def adj | dat refl clt | life sg m |
2 (b) [0:08] and I’m continuing to do this work even though I am on in years –
and | continue 1sg pres I | comp | dat refl clt | acc m 3sg clt | work 1sg pres I | despite conj | 1sg pres cop clt | elderly sg m adj |
3 (b) [0:14] I’m seventy-six, and still put in the effort to ply my trade
at | seventy | and | six | year pl f | again adv | torture 1sg pres I | comp | 1sg pres I | craft sg m def |
4 (b) [0:21] so as to earn a lev here and there for my old age.
comp | can 1sg pres I | comp | earn 1sg pres I | by | some sg m adj | lev sg m | for | antiquity pl f |
5 (b) [0:26] Because my pension is [quite] small,
since conj | pension sg f def med | dat 1sg clt | 3sg pres cop clt | small sg f adj |
6 (a) [0:29] [this means] I’m obliged to work.
and | so.that conj | acc refl clt | ought pres I imprs | comp | work 1sg pres I |
7 (VZh) [What materials (= kinds of lumber) did you work with?]
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8 (b) [0:32] The lumber I was [able to] get was – we call it fir,
material sg m def | which sg m rel med | acc refl clt | suppy 1pl impf I | 3sg impf cop | nom 1pl | acc m 3sg clt | say 1pl pres I | fir sg f |
9 (b) [0:38] or, as foresters say, spruce. Only that kind of lumber.
hes | otherwise adv | in.forester.way adv | acc refl clt | say 3sg pres I | spruce sg m | only adv | such sg m med adj | material sg m |
10 (b) [0:44] We went out to the woods and would seek it out in rocky places
and | acc m 3sg clt | go 1pl pres I | around | forest sg f def med | acc m 3sg clt | seek 1pl impf I | around | rocky sg n adj | place sg n |
11 (VZh) [“tŭrsime” (seek) or “trŭsime” (seek)?]
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12 (b) [0:51] We’d seek it! Seek it in the kinds of places where there are rocks,
seek 1pl pres I | disc | hes | seek 1pl pres I | in | such sg n med adj | place sg n | where rel med | pres exist | stone pl m |
13 (b) [0:59] that tree [is best when] it grows among rocks
in | stone pl m | comp | grow 3sg pres I | this sg n med adj | tree sg n |
14 (b) [1:01] because when it grows among rocks the wood inside is fine-grained,
because | when rel | grow 3sg pres I | in | stone pl m | wood sg n def med | 3sg pres cop clt | inside adv | tiny sg n adj |
15 (b) [1:06] and fine-grained wood is strong and lasting, and [so] we make containers from it.
and | tiny sg n def med adj | wood sg n | 3sg pres cop clt | healthy sg n adj | and | lasting sg n adj | and | from | acc n 3sg | work 1pl pres I | vessel pl m |
16 (b) [1:13] We’ve been working this wood many years, because at that time we worked by hand.
such sg m med adj | material sg m | many adv | year pl f | work 1pl impf I | since conj | then med adv | work 1pl impf I | to | hand sg f |
17 (b) [1:19] We didn’t have machines, and we worked that wood by hand
not.have 1pl pres I | machine pl f | work 1pl impf I | to | hand sg f | and | this sg n med adj | wood sg n |
18 (b) [1:28] That wood isn’t hard the way acacia and oak [are]
this sg n med adj | tree sg n | neg | 3sg pres cop clt | hard sg n adj | like | acacia sg m def | and | oak sg m def |
19 (b) [1:37] [which is] why we worked it by hand. We had no machines at all then,
for.that adv | acc m 3sg clt | work 1pl impf I | to | hand sg f | and | overall adv | then adv | not.have 1pl impf I | no.kind pl adj | machine pl f |
20 (b) [1:43] We worked everything by hand. Consequently when, after many years
everything sg n adj | dat refl clt | work 1pl impf I | to | hand sg f | and | consequently adv | after | many adv | year pl f |
21 (b) [1:51] machines became available, I got myself a planing machine
already adv | interr | emerge 3pl aor P | machine pl f | nom 1sg | dat refl clt | take 1pl aor P | one f sg adj | planing.machine sg f |
22 (b) [1:57] and use it to work with acacia and oak since their wood is very hard
and | to | acc f 3sg | work 1pl pres I | acacia sg m | oak sg m | since conj | nom 3pl | 3pl pres cop clt | very adv | hard sg n adj | wood sg n |
23 (b) [2:08] and can’t be worked by hand. But now they can be worked with the machine,
to | hand sg f | neg | can pres imprs | acc refl clt | work 3pl pres I | and | now adv | already adv | work 3pl pres I | to | machine sg f def med |
24 (b) [2:15] despite the fact that I’m on in years, I still [can] continue to work.
despite conj | 1sg pres cop clt | and | elderly sg m adj | but | again adv | continue 1sg pres I | and | dat refl clt | work 1sg pres I |
25 (b) [2:19] When I have work of course. When I don’t I just sit around! [laughter] So there.
when rel | have 1sg pres I | work sg f | understand 3sg pres I | acc refl clt | when rel | not.have 1sg pres I | sit 1sg pres I | this sg n med adj | 3sg pres cop clt |
26 (VZh) [Did you have [enough] work earlier on?]
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27 (b) [2:26] Earlier on we had a lot of work. However now – to say it with a single word –
more | early adv | have 1pl impf I | much adv | work sg f | however adv | now adv | with | one f adj | word sg f | say sg n P.part P |
28 (b) [2:31] there’s no work. Very little [anyway]. In our craft most of the work
work sg f | pres neg exist | very adv | 3sg pres cop clt | weak sg f adj | and | later adv | our sg m def adj | craft sg m | mostly def adv | work sg f |
29 (b) [2:37] comes in the fall when people need crocks for cabbage or barrels for wine,
pres exist | autumn sg n adj | time sg n | when rel | need pres I imprs | for | cabbage sg n | crock sg f | need pres I imprs | barrel sg f | for | wine sg n |
30 (b) [2:46] small kegs for brandy, small flasks for water [and so on]. So mostly
need pres I imprs | little pl adj | keg pl n | for | brandy sg f | flask pl n | for | water sg f | and | mostly def adv |
31 (b) [2:55] we work in the autumn. There’s very little [work] in summer, but now in autumn
work 1pl impf I | autumn sg n adj | time sg n | during | summer sg n def med | very adv | weak sg n adj | and | now adv | and | during | autumn sg f def med |
32 (b) [3:01] there’s no work because now they’ve come out with all these plastic containers,
pres neg exist | work sg f | because | already adv | emerge 3pl aor P | most | diverse pl adj | hes | plastic pl adj | vessel pl m |
33 (b) [3:08] and people use those for - for such things.
and | acc 3pl | use 3pl pres I | for | for | such pl med adj | thing pl f |
34 (VZh) [Did you go out into the woods to get lumber?]
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35 (b) [3:14] Rarely. I would rarely go [out there]. I had a mule and a donkey, and
rarely adv | go 1sg impf I | rarely adv | have 1sg impf I | mule sg n | and | donkey sg n |
36 (b) [3:20] [If I go], I go, bring it back, and when I use it all up [I go] again.
go 1sg pres P | bring 1sg pres P | when rel | acc 3pl clt | work 1sg pres P | then adv | again adv |
37 (VZh) [How did you load them up?]
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38 (b) [3:26] The donkey has a packsaddle, and the mule had a packsaddle. I tie the mule up
donkey sg n def med | dat refl clt | have 3sg pres I | packsaddle sg m | and | mule sg n def med | dat refl clt | have 3sg impf I | packsaddle sg m | tie 1sg pres P | mule sg n def med |
39 (b) [3:31] following the donkey, pile on the ax and the saw, and mount the donkey’s packsaddle,
after | donkey sg n def med | put 1sg pres P | ax sg f def med | and | saw sg m def | mount 1sg pres P | acc refl clt | to | packsaddle sg m def | of | donkey sg n def med |
40 (b) [3:39] and straight off into the woods. I let them loose to graze all day
direct adv | in | forest sg f def med | release 1sg pres P | acc 3pl clt | there adv | comp | graze 3pl pres I | entire sg m adj | day sg m |
41 (b) [3:43] [while] I prepare two loads, and in the evening, I drive them back.
nom 1sg | fut | prepare 1sg pres P | two m | load ct m | and | evening sg f def med | fut | dat refl clt | acc 3pl clt | drive 1sg pres P |
42 (VZh) [How did you used to make churned milk?]
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43 (b) [3:48] After we churn milk – we churn it in special centrifuges
after | when conj | churn 1pl pres P | milk sg n def med | nom 1pl | acc n 3sg clt | churn 1pl pres I | in | special pl adj | centrifuge pl f |
44 (b) [3:53] which I myself fashioned, wooden centrifuges – we put the milk in the centrifuge
which pl rel med adj | nom 1sg | acc 3pl clt | work 1sg impf I | wooden pl adj | centrifuge sg f | put 1pl pres I | in | centrifuge sg f def med | milk sg n def med |
45 (b) [4:03] and we start [it] to spin. It spins and spins until the fat separates from the milk.
and | begin 1pl pres I | comp | spin 1pl pres I | spin 1pl pres I | spin 1pl pres I | until conj | acc refl clt | separate 3sg pres P | fat sg n def med | from | milk sg n def med |
46 (b) [4:11] After that we take the fat away, and the remaining milk we call churned milk.
and | after | this sg n med adj | already adv | remove 1pl pres I | fat sg n def med | and | milk sg n def med | acc n 3sg clt | call 1pl pres I | churned.milk sg f |
47 (b) [4:18] We drink it in place of water! [laughter]
acc n 3sg | acc n 3sg clt | drink 1pl pres I | in.place.of | water sg f |
48 (VZh) [And when did you do the reaping?]
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49 (b) [4:21] When things ripen in the fields – wheat, rye, oats – when they’re ripe we go to the fields
when rel | ripen 3pl pres P | field pl f def med | wheat sg f | rye sg f | oats sg m | when conj | ripen 3pl pres P | then adv | go 1pl pres I | to | field sg f def med |
50 (b) [4:31] with sickles in our hands and start to reap and to make sheaves.
with | sickle pl m | in | hand sg f | and | begin 1pl pres I | comp | reap 1pl pres I | and | make 1pl pres I | sheaf pl m |
51 (b) [4:39] After we reap the fields we make sheaves, and bring them onto the threshing-floor:
after | when conj | reap 1pl pres P | field sg f def med | make 1pl pres P | sheaf pl m def med | carry 1pl pres P | acc 3pl clt | to | one sg m adj | threshing.field sg m |
52 (b) [4:44] there’s a special field, the threshing-floor, where we thresh these sheaves with a mule
pres exist | dat refl clt | to | field sg f def med | special sg m adj | threshing.field sg m | where rel med | thresh 1pl pres I | this pl med adj | sheaf pl m | with | mule sg n def med |
53 (b) [4:50] and donkeys. When we bring [the sheaves] in, I make them into a pile
and | donkey sg n def med | when conj | acc 3pl clt | carry 1pl pres P | to | threshing.floor sg m def | nom 1sg | make 1sg pres P | pile sg m |
54 (b) [4:59] so they won’t get wet. I make all of the sheaves
for | comp | neg | can pres imprs | comp | acc refl clt | moisten 3pl pres I | all pl adj | sheaf pl m | acc 3pl clt | make 1sg pres I |
55 (b) [5:02] into a pile so that when it starts to rain they won’t get wet.
in | pile sg m | when rel | rain 3sg pres P | comp | neg | can pres imprs | comp | acc refl clt | moisten 3pl pres I |
56 (b) [5:07] And after we’ve reaped everywhere, all the fields, the we start to thresh.
and | when conj | reap 1pl pres P | everywhere adv | all pl adj | field f pl | and | begin 1pl pres I | then adv | comp | thresh 1pl pres I |
57 (b) [5:13] We thresh with mules and donkeys, on that threshing-floor where the piles are.
thresh 1pl pres I | with | mule sg n def med | and | donkey sg n def med | to | this sg m med adj | threshing.field sg m | where rel med | 3pl pres cop clt | pile pl m def med |
58 (b) [5:18] After we finish threshing, we pull out the straw, and separate it from the grain.
after | when conj | acc n 3sg clt | thresh 1pl pres P | take.out 1pl pres P | straw sg f def med | separate 1pl pres P | acc f 3sg clt | from | grain sg n def med |
59 (b) [5:23] We gather up the grain into a stack and – we have these special wooden shovels,
gather 1pl pres P | grain sg n def med | in | one sg m adj | stack sg m | and | dat refl clt | have 1pl pres I | special pl adj | shovel pl m | wooden pl adj |
60 (b) [5:30] we call them “shovels”, and begin to throw [the grain] up in to the air,
say 1pl pres I | dat n 3sg clt | shovel sg f | and | begin 1pl pres I | comp | throw 1pl pres I | in | air sg m def | up adv |
61 (b) [5:34] and the wind separates out the chaff, and the grain ends up clean. And after
and | wind sg m def | separate 3sg pres I | chaff sg f def med | and | grain sg n def med | remain 3sg pres I | pure sg n adj | and | after | when conj |
62 (b) [5:40] we winnow everything, we gather the grain up into sacks and put the chaff with the straw
everything sg n adj | acc n 3sg clt | winnow 1pl pres P | gather 1pl pres I | grain sg n def med | in | sack pl m | chaff sg f def med | with | straw sg f def med | acc 3pl clt | put 1pl pres I |
63 (b) [5:46] into net bags. We load these bags onto the mules, one on each side,
in | net.bag pl m | this pl med adj | net.bag pl m | acc 3pl clt | load 1pl pres I | to | mule sg n def med | by | one sg m adj | net.bag sg m | on.side adv |
64 (b) [5:53] and straight into the barn, so that they’ll be able to eat during the winter,
and | straight adv | in | barn sg f def med | for | during | winter sg f def med | comp | can pres imprs | comp | eat 3pl pres I |
65 (b) [5:58] so there will be something to feed them.
comp | pres exist | what sg n interr | comp | acc 3pl clt | feed 1pl pres I |
66 (VZh) [To feed whom?]
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67 (b) [6:01] Cows, mules – the mule, the donkey – the livestock! Cattle, the cattle, the mule –
cow pl f def med | and | mule pl n | mule sg n def med | and | donkey sg n def med | livestock sg m def | cattle pl n | cattle pl n def med | and | mule sg n def med |
68 (VZh) [What time (of year) did you go out to do the mowing?]
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69 (b) [6:10] When it comes time to mow the meadows, I go out with the mule and the donkey;
when rel | meadow pl f def med | come 3pl pres P | time sg n | comp | acc refl clt | mow 3pl pres I | go 1sg pres I | with | mule sg n def med | and | donkey sg n def med |
70 (b) [6:21] I take a scythe, a small anvil and a whetstone, I go out to the meadow, and I start to mow,
take 1sg pres I | scythe sg f def med | anvil pl n def med | whetstone sg m def | and | go 1sg pres I | to | meadow sg f def med | and | begin 1sg pres I | comp | mow 1sg pres I |
71 (b) [6:30] by hand. After I finish mowing we gather [the hay] up onto threshing fields, and dry it,
to | hand sg f | after | when conj | acc sg n 3sg | mow 1sg pres P | gather 1pl pres P | acc sg n 3sg | to | threshing.floor pl m | dry 1pl pres P | acc sg n 3sg |
72 (b) [6:38] and after that we gather it into stacks and from there again into [these] other bags -
and | after | this sg n med adj | in | stack pl m | acc 3sg clt | gather 1pl pres P | and | from.there adv | again adv | in | net.bag pl m |
73 (b) [6:44] into bags, which we then drive in on the mules [to] the barn for the livestock –
in | net.bag pl m | and | to | mule sg n def med | acc sg n 3sg | bring 1pl pres I | barn sg f def med | for | cattle sg m def |
74 (b) [6:49] for the mule and the cattle.
for | mule sg n def med | and | for | cattle pl n def med |
75 (VZh) [What else did you do when you were young?]
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76 (b) [6:54] In my youth, so to say, I was a great aficionado of the round dance.
in | young pl def med adj | year pl f | comp | say 1sg pres P | nom 1sg | 1sg impf cop | very adv | big sg m adj | round.dance.dancer sg m |
77 (b) [7:01] I danced the round dance a lot. We would get together, bachelors and maidens
much adv | dance 1sg impf I | round.dance sg n | and | acc refl clt | gather 1pl pres I | bachelor pl m def med | all pl adj | and | girl pl f def med |
78 (b) [7:06] at a special place that we called the dancing area.
there adv | at | one sg n adj | special sg n adj | place sg n | where rel med | dat n 3sg clt | say 1pl pres I | dance.area sg n |
79 (b) [7:12] And we would gather there every Sunday and dance the round dance.
and | each sg f adj |
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Sunday sg f | acc refl clt | gather 1pl pres I | there adv | and | dance 1pl pres I | round.dance sg n |
80 (b) [7:17] There were musicians then, some played the violin, and some
exist impf | then adv | musician pl m | some pl m | with | violin sg f |
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play 3pl impf I | some pl m |
81 (b) [7:23] played the bagpipe. And we danced the round dance and had a great time at home.
with | bagpipe sg f | play 3pl impf I | and | nom 1pl | dance 1pl pres I | to | round.dance sg n | be.merry 1pl impf I | acc refl clt | home sg m def med |
82 (b) [7:33] We were particularly joyful when we’d had a bit to drink! [laughter]
especially adv | when rel | drink 1pl impf P | much very | our sg n def med adj |
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83 (VZh) [How do you make staves for barrels?]
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84 (b) [7:43] I still make staves for barrels in the old-fashioned way.
stave pl f def med | for | barrel sg f def med | acc 3pl clt | make 1sg pres I | by | old.time sg n adj | dat refl clt | still adv |
85 (b) [7:52] I bend them over the fire into the shape of a rainbow
to | fire sg m | acc 3pl clt | bend 1sg pres I | and | dat 3pl clt | give 1sg pres I |
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form sg f | of | rainbow sg f |
86 (b) [8:00] and after I bend all the boards for the barrel,
and | after | [...] | [...] | when conj | acc 3pl clt | bend 1sg pres P | all pl def med adj | board pl f | for | barrel sg f def med |
87 (b) [8:05] after that I use an adze to clean off the blackened area where the fire has burned it.
after | this sg n med adj | acc 3pl clt | clean 1sg pres I | black sg n def med adj | rel med | fire sg m def | 3sg pres aux clt | burn sg m L.part I | with | adze sg f def med |
88 (b) [8:13] I cut them to shape and after that begin to put them through the planing machine.
cut.to.shape 1sg pres I | acc 3pl clt | and | after | this sg n med adj | already adv | begin 1sg pres I | comp | acc 3pl clt | put.through 1sg pres I | to | planing.machine sg f def med |
89 (b) [8:19] After I run everything through the planing machine, I make them up on a model,
after | when conj | acc 3pl clt | put.through 1sg pres P | all pl adj | to | planing.machine sg f def med | work 1sg pres I | acc 3pl clt | to | model sg m |
90 (b) [8:25] a model which I have worked out by my own calculation
this sg m med adj | model sg m | hes | acc m 3sg clt | work.out 1sg pres I | by | my sg n adj | [...] | calculation sg n |
91 (b) [8:32] what the radius should be, what width [the barrel] should be, and what diameter
how.big interr | comp | be 3sg pres P | radius sg m def | what.kind sg f adj | width sg f | comp | be 3sg pres P | what.kind sg m adj | diameter sg m |
92 (b) [8:37] the barrel should have; and that helps me work out how many liters it will contain,
comp | have 3sg pres I | barrel sg f def med | and | by | this sg n med adj | acc refl clt | direct 1sg pres I | how.many interr | liter ct m | comp | contain 3sg pres I |
93 (b) [8:43] all this by our professional calculations.
this sg n med adj | 3sg pres cop clt | by | by | our sg m adj | masterly sg n adj | calculation sg n |
94 (VZh) [How is your health after so much work?]
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95 (b) [8:49] After [so] much work my hands have begun to hurt,
from | much adv | work sg f | begin 3pl aor P | comp | acc 1sg clt | hurt 3pl pres I | hand pl f def med | hand pl f def med |
96 (b) [8:55] and my legs hurt [too], I’ve started to get bone spurs in my knees
and | leg pl m def med | acc 1sg clt | hurt 3pl pres I | bone.spur pl m | dat 1sg clt | become 3pl aor P | in | knee pl n def med |
97 (b) [8:59] [such that] now I can’t walk without a staff.
and | now adv | without | staff sg f | neg | can 1sg pres I | comp | walk 1sg pres I |