Sveta Petka 3

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1 (MM) “Tsarevitsa” (corn) – what do you all call it?

vìe

nom 2pl

corn sg f def

how interr

dat f 3sg clt

call 2pl pres I

2 (e) [0:03] We call it “tsarevina”.

nom 1pl

corn sg f

corn sg f

dat f 3sg clt

call 1pl pres I

3 (MM) “Tsarevina”.

càrevina

corn sg f

царевина

4 (e) [0:05] Yes –

dà

yes

да

5 (MM) And how do you call “kachamak” (polenta)?

and

polenta sg m def

how interr

dat n 3sg clt

call 2pl pres I

6 (e) [0:09] Well, you can call it “kachamak”,

disc

can pres imprs

comp

dat m 3sg clt

say 2sg pres P

and

polenta sg m

7 (e) [0:11] or you can call it “prosenik”.

can pres imprs

comp

dat m 3sg clt

say 2sg pres P

and

polenta sg m

8 (MM) [So] you [call it] “prosenik”.

nom 2pl

polenta sg m

9 (e) [0:13] Yes. But you can also call it “misirka”, “misir” – corn flour.

yes

and

and

can pres imprs

comp

acc f 3sg clt

say 2sg pres P

corn sg f

corn sg m

corn sg n adj

flour sg n

10 (MM) Corn –

car

[...]

11 (e) [0:24] “Misir”

misìr’

corn sg m

мисир

12 (MM) [You say] “misir” for it –

misìr

corn sg m

мисир

dat m 3sg clt

той

13 (e) [0:26] “Misir” flour, that means it’s from – from “tsarevina” (corn).

corn sg n adj

flour sg n

say 3sg pres I

that conj

from

from

corn sg f def

14 (MM) Huh. Yes. Hm. So O.K., where did you used to stable the oxen?

bkch

yes

disc

good adv

and

ox m def pl

where interr

acc 3pl clt

enclose 2pl impf I

nom 2pl

15 (e) [0:36] What?

disc

16 (MM) The oxen! Where – where did you used to stable them?

ox pl m def

where interr

where interr

acc 3pl clt

enclose 2pl impf I

17 (e) [0:39] Well, all that’s gone to the devil!

disc

disc

3sg pres cop clt

everything sg n adj

pass 3sg aor P

devil pl m def

18 (MM) [laughter]

[...]

19 (e) [0:45] [laughter] The animals – there’s this ground-floor stable, here in the rear.

animal pl m def

dat refl clt

nom m 3sg

sit 3sg pres I

cellar sg m def

ost

sit 3sg pres I

here adv

ost

behind adv

20 (MM) Ah, the ground-floor stable

à

disc

pòdniko

cellar sg m def

подник

21 (e) [0:47] Yes, right here. It’s back here.

yes

ost

here adv

from.here adv

3sg pres cop clt

22 (MM) Ah, here.

disc

tùka

here adv

тук

23 (e) [0:51] This house where the oxen are is in the back. Oxen used to be underneath

this sg f adj

house sg f

where rel

3sg pres cop clt

here adv

behind adv

ox pl m def

and

below adv

3pl impf cop

ox pl m def

24 (e) [0:53] and the hayloft was above. And it’s still the same [now].

above adv

3sg impf cop

loft sg f

disc

dat refl clt

3sg pres cop clt

all adv

thus adv

25 (e) [0:57] Now what’s below is cows. Now there’s cows there. Cows.

nom 3pl

3pl pres cop clt

cow pl f def

below adv

now adv

cow pl f def

there adv

pres exist

cow pl f

there adv

26 (MM) Aha.

əxə̀

bkch

аха

27 (e) [1:01] Uh huh.

ahà

bkch

аха

28 (MM) So the ground-floor stable was below, and the hayloft was above.

bkch

yes

mean 3sg pres I

below adv

cellar sg m

above adv

loft sg f

29 (e) [1:06] That’s right. Below is the ground-floor stable, where animals lived, above is the hayloft.

disc

thus adv

below adv

cellar sg m

animal pl m def

live 3pl impf I

above adv

3sg pres cop clt

loft sg f

30 (e) [1:10] That hayloft’s been rebuilt, it’s not like it used be before –

nom f 3sg

3sg pres cop clt

regenerate sg f P.part P

loft sg f def

already adv

neg

3sg pres cop clt

early adv

31 (e) [1:14] ah, my. The whole wall – all in stone.

excl

excl

for

wall sg m

everything sg n adj

with

stone sg m

32 (MM) In stone. Well, who made [those walls] for you? Who built –

with

stone sg m

disc

who sg m

dat 2pl clt

acc 3pl clt

make 3sg impf I

who sg m

acc 3pl

[...]

33 (e) [1:27] There’s craftsmen for that.

disc

dat refl clt

exist impf

craftsman pl m

34 (MM) Who built them?

which sg m interr

acc 3pl clt

build 3sg impf I

35 (e) [1:30] The Eleshnicians, people from Eleshnitsa.

elèšničɛ̀ne

Eleshnitsa.resident pl m

елешничанин

from

от

elèšnicḁ

Eleshnitsa sg f place

Елешница

36 (MM) The Eleshnicians.

elìšničɛ̀ne

Eleshnitsa.resident pl m

елешничанин

37 (e) [1:32] Well, I [had] the hayloft made

disc

1sg pres aux clt

nom 1sg

make sg m L.part P

this sg f adj

loft sg f

now adv

38 (e) [1:33] for twenty-six thousand levs, of the old money …

for

twenty

and

six

thousand pl f

lev ct m

from

that pl adj

money pl.t

39 (MM) Yes.

dà

yes

да

40 (e) [1:37] … the twenty-six thousand levs that the German [guy] gave.

rel

German.man sg m def

give 3sg aor P

twenty

and

six

thousand pl f

lev ct m

41 (MM) So, the Eleshnicians, is that right?

znàči

mean 3sg pres I

знача

elèšničɛ̀ni

Eleshnitsa.resident pl m

thus adv

interr clt

42 (e) [1:44] The Eleshnicians, yes.

elèšnič’ɛ̀ni

Eleshnitsa.resident pl m

елешничанин

dà

yes

да

43 (MM) Where [are they] from?

otkɤdè

from.where interr

откъде

44 (e) [1:46] From Eleshnitsa. They’re from that area way up there somewhere

from

от

elèšnicə

Eleshnitsa sg f place

nom 3pl

3pl pres cop clt

from

this sg m adj

region m sg

thus adv

somewhere adv

ost

45 (e) [1:48] I’ve been around here and there, and up there they called it Eleshnitsa.

nom 1sg

1sg pres aux clt

go sg m L.part

and

there adv

and

here adv

ost

and

say 3pl impf I

acc n 3sg clt

there adv

Eleshnitsa sg f place

Елешница

46 (e) [1:52] There’s a bend in the road up there. Those are villages [from] which

and

above adv

bend 3sg pres I

there adv

nom m 3pl

village pl n

where rel

47 (e) [1:57] [people] come down here. Also other villages – they come down here.

come 3pl pres I

here adv

and

other pl adj

village pl n

mean 3sg pres I

nom 3pl

[...]

from

this sg n adj

come 3pl pres I

48 (e) [2:01] The people up there are mostly like us (= Pomaks).

mostly adv

our pl adj

people pl

such pl adj

there adv

49 (MM) So here there weren’t –

mean 3sg pres I

here adv

exist impf neg

50 (e) [2:05] Well, hey –

disc

adrs

бе

51 (MM) There weren’t any craftsmen?

exist impf neg

craftsman pl m

52 (e) [2:06] No. There were only [unintelligible]. A lot of such people, [very] backward.

impf neg exist

only adv

nom 3pl

3sg impf cop

only adv

3pl impf cop

many adv

disc

people pl

behind adv

53 (MM) Aha.

əxə

bkch

аха

54 (e) [2:14] They had no way of making a living, no livelihood. They were only into –

not.have 3pl impf I

livelihood sg f

livelihood sg f

not.have 3pl impf I

only adv

3pl impf cop

[...]

55 (e) [2:19] you know, masonry. But the most simple masonry.

this sg n adj

masonry sg f

but

simple sg f adj

masonry sg f

56 (e) [2:22] They couldn’t make a house like that. Mud-splashers.

neg

can 3pl pres

comp

make 3pl pres I

such sg f adj

house sg f

mudsplasher pl f

57 (MM) Aha, aha.

disc

disc

58 (e) [2:27] [Working] with mud. [Take] the mud and make a wall! Build up that wall!

with

mud sg m

mud sg m def

and

build.wall sg imv I

and

with

wall sg m

and

build.wall sg imv I

59 (e) [2:31] So there. But they couldn’t [make] these sorts [unintelligible]

ost

disc

such pl adj

house pl f

neg

can 3pl impf I

this.sort pl adj

60 (e) [2:36] [All] they did was wander about. You bargain with one, he makes you [something],

but

do 3pl impf I

thus adv

go 3pl impf I

this sg n adj

bargain 3sg pres I

acc m 3sg clt

and

dat 2sg clt

make 3sg pres I

61 (e) [2:37] you feed him, and that’s all. Earlier on, well – when we were threshing, well,

feed 2sg pres I

acc m 3sg clt

and

this sg n adj

3sg pres cop clt

early adv

disc

rel

and

thresh 1pl pres I

again adv

62 (e) [2:44] these gypsies, these nomads would come when we were threshing grain.

Gypsy pl m

nomad pl m

come 3pl impf I

where rel

thresh 1pl pres I

grain sg n def

63 (MM) Yes, and what do the gypsies do?

yes

and

what sg n interr

do 3pl pres I

Gypsy pl m def

64 (e) [2:52] Well, and then we pound the sheaves.

[...]

ами

dà

[...]

and

pound 1pl pres I

sheaf pl m

65 (MM) Right –

təkà

thus adv

така

66 (e) [2:55] [On the] threshing field. And in the center there’s this kind of post

threshing.floor sg m

and

middle sg f def

pres exist

one sg n adj

disc

one sg m adj

post sg m

67 (e) [3:00] And I tie the horses to it, and they go around.

and

tie 1sg pres P

horse pl m def

and

encircle 3pl pres I

68 (MM) How do you call that post?

this sg m def adj

post sg m

how interr

acc refl clt

say 3sg pres I

69 (e) [3:05] What?

hè

disc

70 (MM) How do you call that post?

how interr

acc refl clt

say 3sg pres I

this sg m def adj

post sg m

71 (e) [3:08] Uh – the post?

disc

post sg m def

interr clt

72 (MM) Аh.

à

disc

73 (e) [3:11] It’s called the “kol” (pole).

nom m 3sg

acc refl clt

say 3sg pres I

pole sg m def

74 (MM) Is it the “kol” or the “stozher”

pole sg m def

pillar sg m def

interr clt

there adv

75 (e) [3:16] “Kol”, “kol”!

pole sg m

pole sg m

76 (MM) “Kol”.

kòl

pole sg m

кол

77 (e) [3:18] “Kol”. That thing where they tied the rope onto.

pole sg m

nom m 3sg

rel

tie 3pl impf I

disc

rope sg n def

78 (MM) Yes, yes, yes.

yes

yes

yes

79 (e) [3:22] They tied the rope to it, and the horses went round [it].

tie 3pl impf I

rope sg n def

for

acc m 3sg

and

acc refl clt

rotate 3pl pres I

horse pl m def

80 (MM) Hah.

xɤ̀

disc

81 (e) [3:31] And after a bit we start – when the threshing floor starts crumbling –

and

one sg n adj

certain sg n adj

time sg n

begin 1pl pres P

when conj

acc refl clt

[...]

scrape 3sg pres P

threshing.field sg m def

харман

82 (e) [3:38] I rake the other straw for a bit, and then we thresh it again

rake 1sg pres I

little adv

other sg f def adj

straw sg f

thus adv

after

this sg n adj

acc m 3sg clt

thresh 1pl pres P

83 (e) [3:42] with pitchforks, and then we pound it, and then hurl it up.

and

with

pitchfork pl f def

again adv

acc refl clt

and

acc m 3sg clt

pound 1pl pres I

and

acc m 3sg clt

throw 1pl pres I

already adv

84 (e) [3:47] Then they tied the horses up a second time.

again adv

tie 3pl aor P

horse pl m def

second sg m adj

time sg m

85 (MM) Yes? And after that?

yes

and

later adj

86 (e) [3:57] And after we finish threshing they drive the horses out and we clean the straw,

and

this sg n adj

when conj

acc m 3sg clt

thresh 1pl pres P

drive 3pl aor P

horse pl m def

clean 1pl pres P

straw sg f def

87 (e) [4:03] and what’s left is only rye – grain, the grain on the ground. And there’s twigs,

and

remain 3sg pres P

only adv

rye sg f def

grain sg n

grain sg n def

earth sg f def

and

pole pl m

pres exist

88 (e) [4:09] well, these beaters, with balls [on top] . We call them “drugultsi” (seed-beaters).

such pl adj

ost

beater pl m

and

such pl adj

ball pl f

disc

[...]

call 1pl pres I

acc 3pl clt

rake pl m

rake pl m

89 (e) [4:15] And we sweep it up and make it into a little pile.

and

dat refl clt

acc m 3sg clt

sweep 1pl pres P

and

acc m 3sg clt

make 1pl pres P

one sg f adj

pile sg f

90 (MM) Right –

taka

thus adv

така

91 (e) [4:21] We make it into a little pile, and then you take – there’s these wooden shovels,

one sg f adj

pile sg f

acc n 3sg clt

make 1pl pres P

and

then adv

take 2sg pres I

pres exist

and

disc

shovel pl f

wooden pl adj

92 (e) [4:30] and with these wooden shovels you – hey! hey! hey! hey! – up into the wind,

and

with

this pl adj

wooden pl def adj

shovel pl f

wind sg m def

excl

excl

excl

excl

93 (e) [4:36] and the wind cleans out the chaff and the grain remains in a pile.

clean 3sg pres I

wind sg m def

chaff sg f def

grain sg n def

remain 3sg pres I

pile sg f def

94 (MM) Fine, but if there isn’t any wind?

good adv

if conj

neg exist

wind sg m

95 (e) [4:46] What?

àj

disc

ай

96 (e) If there’s no wind?

if conj

neg exist

wind sg m

97 (e) [4:47] We’re all out in the hills. If there’s no wind you leave it till morning,

nom 1pl

1pl pres cop clt

all adv

around

hill pl m def

if conj

exist neg

wind sg m

leave 2sg pres I

for

morning sg f def

98 (e) [4:50] the wind will blow. Ah, there was a threshing floor there and it was –

blow 3sg pres P

wind sg m

ost

there adv

impf exist

one sg m adj

threshing.field sg m

and

nom m 3sg

3sg pres cop clt

99 (e) [4:57] the wind would pick it up from any spot you want [it to].

from.where rel

want 2sg pres I

catch 3sg pres I

acc n 3sg clt

wind sg m def

100 (MM) Ahh – So your threshing floors weren’t here by the houses [but rather] away –

disc

mean 3sg pres I

threshing.floor pl m def

neg

3pl impf cop

here adv

beside

house pl f def

outside adv

101 (e) [5:02] What?

ɛ̀

disc

102 (MM) The threshing floors were away [from the houses].

armànete

threshing.floor pl m def

3pl impf cop

outside adv

103 (e) [5:03] Ah, the threshing floors were way up there, that’s where they were.

ost

above adv

threshing.floor pl m def

3pl impf cop

yes

here adv

this sg n adj

acc m 3sg clt

exist impf

threshing.floor pl m

104 (MM) Hmm.

hmh

bkch

105 (e) [5:07] Yes, there’s nothing and nothing to expect. And now I’m –

disc

here adv

exist neg

and

neg exist

wait sg imv

now adv

1sg pres cop clt

106 (e) [5:09] Only small stuff here, up on top. People haven’t sowed anything [major] for a long time.

tiny sg f adj

thing sg f

disc

here adv

peak sg m def

interr

people pl def

neg

3pl impf aux

sow pl L.part I

long.ago adv

tiny sg n adj

thing sg n

107 (e) [5:14] like barley, oats, such things, wheat (“chenitsa”)

barley sg m def

oats sg m

such sg n adj

thing sg n

wheat sg f

108 (MM) Which [is the one] you call “chenitsa”?

which sg n adj

say 2pl pres I

wheat sg f

109 (e) [5:21] “Chenitsa” is the white one, the one that gives white flour.

wheat sg f def

3sg pres cop clt

from

white sg n def adj

rel

become 3sg pres I

white sg n def adj

flour sg n

110 (e) [5:29] Now we only eat that. There’s no more of the other. [Only] the white.

now adv

only adv

eat 1pl pres I

already adv

from

other sg n adj

pres neg exist

wheat sg f

disc

111 (MM) Yes. So it means that “chenitsa” used to grow here?

yes

mean 3sg pres I

and

wheat sg f def

hes

acc refl clt

bear 3sg impf I

here adv

112 (e) [5:38] Well, [in] the open field some “chenitsa” would grow, but not much.

disc

field sg n def

and

wheat sg f

bear 3sg impf I

but

weakly adv

113 (MM) Not much, right.

weakly adv

yes

114 (e) [5:42] We only had rye, pretty much.

only

[…]

rye sg f def

1pl impf cop

115 (MM) It’s very high up here.

very adv

high adv

here adv

116 (e) [5:46] Now it perhaps could grow, [but] we’d basically gotten accustomed to [rye],

now adv

can pres imprs

comp

acc refl clt

bear 3sg pres P

1pl impf aux

mostly adv

this sg n adj

accustom pl L.part P

117 (e) [5:49] and to [working with] it.

thus adv

and

comp

acc n 3sg clt

118 (MM) Yes, yes.

yes

yes

119 (e) [5:51] That’s how it is.

tovà

this sg n adj

този

3sg pres cop clt

съм

120 (e) [5:52] But you get a really good harvest [by using] manure – manure from oxen

only adv

strong sg m def adj

good.harvest sg m

become 3sg pres I

manure sg f

such sg f adj

ox's sg f adj

manure sg f

121 (e) [5:56] You pile manure [on the crops], pile it on, spread it around,

when conj

acc n 3sg clt

fertilize 2sg pres P

and

acc n 3sg clt

fertilize 2sg pres P

fut

acc f 3sg clt

spread 2sg pres P

122 (e) [6:01] and it works, when you fertilize with manure.

and

become 3sg pres I

when conj

acc n 3sg clt

fertilize 2sg pres P

with

fertilizer sg m

123 (MM) Yes, yes, yes.

yes

yes

yes

124 (e) [6:06] We call manure “fertilizer”.

manure pl n

call 1pl pres I

fertilizer sg m

125 (MM) Yes, I see that you here shovel up ...

yes

see 1sg pres I

here adv

gather 2pl pres I

nom 2pl

126 (e) [6:09] What?

disc

127 (MM) ... manure. That you shovel manure [up for use].

manure sg n

nom 2pl

acc refl clt

gather 2pl pres I

manure sg n def

128 (e) [6:12] We do! All the time. It’s this, here. See this manure [pile]?

gather 1sg pres I

all adv

ost

here adv

ost

acc n 3sg clt

3sg pres cop clt

this sg n adj

manure sg f

ost

see sg imv P

this sg n adj

129 (MM) Yes.

dà

yes

да

130 (e) [6:15] There’s the manure.

sit 3sg pres I

this sg n adj

manure sg n

131 (MM) Yes.

dà

yes

да

132 (e) [6:17] When you fertilize with it – whatever you want to put it on, hay [for instance] –

when conj

fertilize 2sg pres P

become 3sg pres I

what.kind sg m adj

want 2pl pres

comp

put 2sg pres P

hay sg n

133 (e) [6:21] There’s no [need to use] bags [to keep it in]. Everything get black.

pres neg exist

bag pl m

black sg n adj

become 3sg pres I

black sg n adj

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Sveta Petka 3

1 (MM) “Tsarevitsa” (corn) – what do you all call it?

2 (e) [0:03] We call it “tsarevina”.

3 (MM) “Tsarevina”.

4 (e) [0:05] Yes –

5 (MM) And how do you call “kachamak” (polenta)?

6 (e) [0:09] Well, you can call it “kachamak”,

7 (e) [0:11] or you can call it “prosenik”.

8 (MM) [So] you [call it] “prosenik”.

9 (e) [0:13] Yes. But you can also call it “misirka”, “misir” – corn flour.

10 (MM) Corn –

11 (e) [0:24] “Misir”

12 (MM) [You say] “misir” for it –

13 (e) [0:26] “Misir” flour, that means it’s from – from “tsarevina” (corn).

14 (MM) Huh. Yes. Hm. So O.K., where did you used to stable the oxen?

15 (e) [0:36] What?

16 (MM) The oxen! Where – where did you used to stable them?

17 (e) [0:39] Well, all that’s gone to the devil!

18 (MM) [laughter]

19 (e) [0:45] [laughter] The animals – there’s this ground-floor stable, here in the rear.

20 (MM) Ah, the ground-floor stable

21 (e) [0:47] Yes, right here. It’s back here.

22 (MM) Ah, here.

23 (e) [0:51] This house where the oxen are is in the back. Oxen used to be underneath

24 (e) [0:53] and the hayloft was above. And it’s still the same [now].

25 (e) [0:57] Now what’s below is cows. Now there’s cows there. Cows.

26 (MM) Aha.

27 (e) [1:01] Uh huh.

28 (MM) So the ground-floor stable was below, and the hayloft was above.

29 (e) [1:06] That’s right. Below is the ground-floor stable, where animals lived, above is the hayloft.

30 (e) [1:10] That hayloft’s been rebuilt, it’s not like it used be before –

31 (e) [1:14] ah, my. The whole wall – all in stone.

32 (MM) In stone. Well, who made [those walls] for you? Who built –

33 (e) [1:27] There’s craftsmen for that.

34 (MM) Who built them?

35 (e) [1:30] The Eleshnicians, people from Eleshnitsa.

36 (MM) The Eleshnicians.

37 (e) [1:32] Well, I [had] the hayloft made

38 (e) [1:33] for twenty-six thousand levs, of the old money …

39 (MM) Yes.

40 (e) [1:37] … the twenty-six thousand levs that the German [guy] gave.

41 (MM) So, the Eleshnicians, is that right?

42 (e) [1:44] The Eleshnicians, yes.

43 (MM) Where [are they] from?

44 (e) [1:46] From Eleshnitsa. They’re from that area way up there somewhere

45 (e) [1:48] I’ve been around here and there, and up there they called it Eleshnitsa.

46 (e) [1:52] There’s a bend in the road up there. Those are villages [from] which

47 (e) [1:57] [people] come down here. Also other villages – they come down here.

48 (e) [2:01] The people up there are mostly like us (= Pomaks).

49 (MM) So here there weren’t –

50 (e) [2:05] Well, hey –

51 (MM) There weren’t any craftsmen?

52 (e) [2:06] No. There were only [unintelligible]. A lot of such people, [very] backward.

53 (MM) Aha.

54 (e) [2:14] They had no way of making a living, no livelihood. They were only into –

55 (e) [2:19] you know, masonry. But the most simple masonry.

56 (e) [2:22] They couldn’t make a house like that. Mud-splashers.

57 (MM) Aha, aha.

58 (e) [2:27] [Working] with mud. [Take] the mud and make a wall! Build up that wall!

59 (e) [2:31] So there. But they couldn’t [make] these sorts [unintelligible]

60 (e) [2:36] [All] they did was wander about. You bargain with one, he makes you [something],

61 (e) [2:37] you feed him, and that’s all. Earlier on, well – when we were threshing, well,

62 (e) [2:44] these gypsies, these nomads would come when we were threshing grain.

63 (MM) Yes, and what do the gypsies do?

64 (e) [2:52] Well, and then we pound the sheaves.

65 (MM) Right –

66 (e) [2:55] [On the] threshing field. And in the center there’s this kind of post

67 (e) [3:00] And I tie the horses to it, and they go around.

68 (MM) How do you call that post?

69 (e) [3:05] What?

70 (MM) How do you call that post?

71 (e) [3:08] Uh – the post?

72 (MM) Аh.

73 (e) [3:11] It’s called the “kol” (pole).