Sŭrnica 2

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1 (MM) And what work did you do in the forest?

and

forest sg f def

what sg n interr

work 2pl impf I

nom 2pl

disc

2 (MM) Was it only the men who went to work up in the forest?

only adv

man pl m def

interr clt

hes

go 3pl impf I

forest sg f def

work sg f

3 (a) [0:07] Well, the men worked. Earlier on they carried [off] lumber to Yundula,

disc

man pl m def

dat refl clt

work 3pl impf I

lumber pl m

dat refl clt

drive 3pl impf I

Yundula sg f place

before

4 (b) [0:09] They –

t’è

nom 3pl

те

5 (a) [0:10] in the woods.

around

по

gurɤ̀tə

forest sg f def

гора

6 (b) [0:10] The women planted saplings.

woman pl f def

afforest 3pl impf I

7 (a) [0:11] And we women planted saplings.

and

woman pl f def

afforest 1pl impf I

8 (a) [0:13] I’ve [often] gone out doing such planting. I would go out for planting most of all.

and

nom 1sg

afforest vbl.n I

1sg pres aux clt

go sg f L.part I

most

much def adv

afforest vbl.n I

go 1sg impf I

9 (a) [0:16] But in the winter there wasn’t any work. In the winter [you stay] inside,

and

and

winter sg f def

and

pres neg exist

work sg f

winter sg f def

inside adv

10 (a) [0:19] until you spin up all the flax, do all the weaving, make fabric

until conj

spin 2sg pres P

flax sg m def

until conj

weave 2sg pres P

until conj

dat refl clt

make 2sg pres P

fabric sg n

11 (a) [0:23] for the children, bleach it in the river, pound it with clubs

for

child pl n def

and

acc n 3sg clt

bleach 2sg pres I

river sg f def

and

acc n 3sg clt

pound 2sg pres I

with

bat pl m

12 (a) [0:27] and then bleach it till it’s soft, till it’s clean,

and

acc n 3sg clt

bleach 2sg pres I

comp

become 3sg pres P

soft sg n adj

comp

acc refl clt

cleanse 3sg pres P

13 (a) [0:30] and all that, then you dry it, so that – that you can dress …

comp

acc refl clt

disc

then med adv

acc n 3sg clt

already adv

dry 2sg pres P

again adv

comp

comp

dress 2sg pres P

14 (b) [0:34] and they set it aside –

zadel’ɤ̀t

allocate 3pl pres P

заделя

15 (a) [0:34] ... the children.

dəcàtə

child pl n def

дете

16 (b) [0:35] They weave homemade fabric.

weave 3pl pres I

domestic sg n adj

fabric sg n

17 (MM) Yes.

dà

yes

да

18 (a) [0:37] Homemade fabric. You know? That’s what we were busy with.

domestic sg n adj

fabric sg n

interr

with

acc n 3sg

acc refl clt

occupy 1pl pres I

19 (b) [0:39] From flax.

from

от

l’èn

flax sg m

лен

20 (MM) Yes, yes, yes.

yes

yes

yes

21 (a) [0:39] Because the women [worked] the flax.

because

woman pl f def

flax sg m def

22 (MM) So flax grew here. It took root here.

mean 3sg pres I

flax sg m def

3sg pres aux clt

become sg m L.part I

here adv

bear sg m L.part I

acc refl clt

3sg pres aux clt

23 (a) [0:43] It did, it did.

become 3sg impf I

become 3sg impf I

24 (MM) It grew [here].

bear sg m L.part I

acc refl clt

3sg pres aux clt

25 (a) [0:44] Really nice flax grew here.

very adv

nice sg m adj

flax sg m

become 3sg impf I

26 (MM) Do you still plant it? Or not?

disc

now adv

already adv

put 2pl pres I

interr clt

27 (b) [0:47] Nope.

əˀə

28 (a) [0:47] Well now – up till now, you know, things were different –

disc

now adv

now adv

interr

3sg impf cop

other sg n adj

time sg n def

29 (MM) Yes.

yes

да

30 (a) [0:49] state-owned. And now – from now on [someone should] develop it for the future.

state sg n adj

and

now adv

from.now adv

onward adv

and

hort

acc n 3sg clt

develop 3pl pres P

from.here adv

onward adv

31 (MM) Yes.

dà

yes

да

32 (a) [0:54] Some people will [certainly] start to sow it again.

fut

begin 3pl pres P

someone sg m

again adv

comp

sow 3pl pres I

33 (MM) Yes. And wool – how do you process that?

yes

and

wool sg f def

how interr

acc f 3sg clt

do 2pl pres I

nom 2pl

34 (a) [1:00] Wool?

vɤ̀lnətà

wool sg f def

вълна

interr clt

ли

35 (MM) Yes.

dà

yes

да

36 (a) [1:01] Well, you know, you take it to the cauldron, to …

interr

there adv

take 2sg pres P

cauldron sg m def

37 (b) [1:03] To the river.

river sg f def

38 (a) [1:03] … to the trough there, to the washing place and you steam it.

trough sg n def

there adv

washing.place sg f def

and

steam 2sg pres P

acc f 3sg clt

39 (MM) Right.

taka

thus adv

така

40 (a) [1:08] One fleece at a time, from a single sheep.

one sg n adj

fleece sg n

from

one sg f adj

sheep sg f

41 (MM) Ah, and why do you steam it?

disc

why interr

acc f 3sg clt

steam 2sg pres I

42 (a) [1:10] [We put] a sack [of wool] to boil in the cauldron to get rid of the “sera”

one sg m adj

sack sg m

comp

boil 3sg pres I

cauldron sg m def

grease sg f def

comp

emerge 3sg pres P

43 (MM) Ah – the “sera”?

à

excl

serɤ̀ta

grease sg f def

сяра

44 (a) [1:14] The grease. You steam the wool like that so the “sera” (grease) will come out,

grease sg f def

comp

emerge 3sg pres P

grease sg f def

wool sg f def

steam 2sg pres P

acc f 3sg clt

disc

45 (a) [1:19] After that you throw it into the cold trough again …

after

this sg n med adj

acc f 3sg clt

throw 2sg pres I

cold sg n def adj

trough sg n

again adv

46 (b) [1:22] You wash this –

wash 2sg pres I

this sg n adj

47 (a) [1:23] so it gets all washed through again.

again adv

there adv

comp

acc refl clt

wash 3sg pres P

48 (MM) Yes.

yes

да

49 (a) [1:25] And after that you put another fleece from [another] sheep in the cauldron.

after

this sg n med adj

put 2sg pres I

again adv

other sg n adj

fleece sg n

from

sheep sg f

cauldron sg m def

50 (a) [1:28] Whether ten or twenty fleeces of wool, they all

and

have 2sg pres I

ten

and

have 2sg pres I

twenty

fleece pl n

wool sg f

and

all pl adj

51 (a) [1:32] get done one by one. You process them [all] in hot water

one sg n adj

one sg n adj

fut

acc 3pl clt

put 2sg pres P

hot sg f def adj

water sg f

cauldron sg m def

52 (a) [1:37] and after that you wash them in cold water

and

after

this sg n med adj

already adv

cold sg f def adj

water sg f

fut

acc 3pl clt

wash 2sg pres I

53 (a) [1:40] as much as you want.

how.much inter.rel

dat refl clt

want 2sg pres I

54 (MM) Yes. And [what] about the dyeing?

dà

yes

да

and

for

за

bojadìsvanetu

dye def vbl.n I

боядисвам

55 (a) [1:49] For the dyeing you get dyes from gypsy women, and we [also] get lemon salt

for

dye def vbl.n I

dat refl clt

take 3sg pres P

dye sg f

from

gypsy.woman pl f def

and

lemon.salt indcl

dat refl clt

take 1pl pres I

56 (a) [1:55] Again you set the cauldron up here in the yard, and you dye them.

again adv

dat refl clt

put 2sg pres P

cauldron sg m def

here adv

yard sg m def

and

dat refl clt

acc 3pl clt

dye 2sg pres P

57 (MM) The –

на

hes

58 (a) [1:58] [You dye] the yarn [to be] whatever [color] you want.

kvà

what.kind sg f inter.rel adj

yarn sg f

want 2sg pres I

59 (MM) Ah, it’s the yarn that you dye.

disc

yarn sg f def

dye 2sg pres I

60 (a) [2:00] It’s the yarn we dye. Green, or blue, or red, or orange, whatever [you want].

yarn sg f def

dye 1pl pres I

green sg f adj

interr clt

blue sg f adj

interr clt

red sg f adj

interr clt

orange sg f adj

interr clt

61 (b) [2:05] One at a time.

one sg n adj

one sg n def adj

62 (a) [2:06] Whatever [color] of yarn you want, you fix up the cauldron [again] and dye it.

kvàtu

what.kind sg f rel adj

want 2sg pres I

yarn sg f

put 2sg pres I

cauldron sg m def

dye 2sg pres I

63 (a) [2:09] You dye one, take it out, dye the next, and [that’s how] we do the dyeing.

dye 2sg pres P

one sg f def adj

remove 2sg pres P

acc f 3sg clt

dye 2sg pres P

other sg f adj

again adv

dye 1pl pres I

dat refl clt

64 (b) [2:14] And they used to dye with “kamenyok” (lichen) too.

and

with

lichen sg m

dye 3pl impf I

again adv

65 (MM) What?

kàk

how interr

как

66 (a) [2:16] And when the weather is rainy we go out and gather “kamenyok” from rocks.

and

kətu

when conj

като

vəlì

precipitate 3sg pres I

weather sg n def

again adv

go 1pl pres P

gather 1pl pres P

lichen sg m

from

stone pl m def

67 (MM) What is this “kamenyok”?

what sg n interr

3sg pres cop clt

this sg n adj

lichen sg m

68 (b) [2:20] It’s the same as mallow [grass], [but taken] off of rocks.

from

stone pl m def

same adv

mallow sg m

such sg n med adj

69 (a) [2:20] On top of a rock, “kamenyok”.

stone sg m def

lichen sg m

70 (b) [2:22] It grows on rocks.

grow 3sg pres I

stone pl m def

such sg n med adj

71 (a) [2:24] It’s sort of like a crust on top of the rock,

pres exist

something sg n

crust sg f

thus med adv

stone sg m def

72 (b) [2:27] [Like] ash.

pèpel

ash sg f

пепел

73 (a) [2:27] and we peel it off.

peel 1pl pres P

peel 1pl pres P

74 (MM) Ah! That [thing you find] on rocks! So –

excl

this sg n adj

stone sg m def

hes

75 (a) [2:30] And - what?

and

à

disc

76 (b) [2:31] dà

dà

yes

да

77 (MM) And that’s what you call “kamenyok”?

and

this sg n adj

dat m 3sg clt

call 2pl pres I

lichen sg m

78 (b) [2:32] “Kamenyok”, yes.

lichen sg m

yes

79 (a) [2:32] [We call] it “kamenyok” because it comes from a rock (“kamŭk”).

and

acc m 3sg

lichen sg m

because

from

stone sg m

80 (MM) And what color is that?

and

which sg m adj

color sg m

3sg pres cop clt

nom n 3sg

81 (a) [2:35] Well, sort of gray. Ah, here, like [your] trousers.

disc

such sg m med adj

gray sg m def

something sg n

ost

trousers sg m def

82 (MM) Yes.

dà

yes

да

83 (a) [2:39] A little grayish. That sort of color, gray.

little adv

gray sg n adj

such sg m med adj

3sg pres cop clt

color sg m def

84 (MM) Yes.

dà

yes

да

85 (a) [2:43] Gray.

sìvu

gray sg n adj

сив

86 (MM) Aha. I hadn’t heard that [word].

excl

this sg n adj

neg

1sg pres aux clt

hear sg m L.part I

87 (a) [2:45] We pick the lichen. We pick it …

pluck 1pl pres P

lichen sg m

pluck 1pl pres P

88 (b) [2:45] They also [make] dye from bark.

and

with

bark pl f

dye 3pl pres I

89 (a) [2:46] … and boil it up in the cauldron. We boil it, take it out, get it out,

boil 1pl pres P

acc m 3sg clt

acc m 3sg

cauldron sg m def

boil 1pl pres P

extract 2sg pres P

acc m 3sg

remove 2sg pres P

90 (a) [2:49] put in the yarn, and put the lichen [back in] on top of that …

put 2sg pres P

yarn sg f def

put 2sg pres P

and

lichen sg m def

atop adv

still

91 (b) [2:53] … and from bark.

and

səs

with

kurì

bark pl f

кора

92 (a) [2:53] … and you keep it [there for a while] –

and

acc m 3sg clt

то

dərž’iš’

hold 2sg pres I

държа

93 (b) [2:54] They dyed [things] brown with bark.

and

with

bark pl f

dye 3pl impf I

brown sg n adj

94 (a) [2:55] Bark from fir trees.

and

fir pl adj

bark pl f

again adv

95 (MM) Ah, fir bark.

excl

fir pl adj

bark pl f

96 (a) [3:57] You pick bark off a fir tree. [Yes,] we also dye [things] with fir bark.

from

fir sg f

again adv

fut

pluck 2sg pres P

bark sg f

again adv

with

fir sg f

bark sg f

again adv

dye 1pl pres I

97 (MM) Yes.

dà

yes

да

98 (b) [3:02] Bro–

[…]

99 (a) [3:03] [From a] fir tree.

jèlhə

fir sg f

елха

100 (b) [3:03] They dye [things] brown.

brown sg n adj

dye 3pl pres I

101 (MM) Huh.

hɤ̀

bkch

ха

102 (a) [3:05] There’s [some] over there, my sense is that there is some,

pres exist

there adv

hunch sg n def

dat 1sg clt

3sg pres cop clt

comp

acc f 3sg clt

pres exist

103 (a) [3:06] but I don’t know where it is any more.

but

neg

know 1sg pres I

where interr

3sg pres cop clt

already adv

104 (MM) So women did their own dyeing here …

mean 3sg pres I

woman pl f def

dat refl clt

dye 3pl impf I

here adv

105 (a) [3:13] Oho, did they do the dyeing!

dye 3pl impf I

dat refl clt

excl

106 (MM) They didn’t – they didn’t take it other places to have it dyed for them.

hes

neg

give 3pl impf I

other pl adj

place pl n

comp

dat 3pl clt

acc refl clt

dye 3sg pres I

107 (b) [3:16] No, there was no such thing then.

then med adv

impf neg exist

108 (a) [3:16] No.

nè

не

109 (MM) In other villages they take [things] out to the dye-works.

other pl adj

village pl n

take 3pl pres I

about

dye.works pl f

110 (a) [3:17] At that time there wasn’t anywhere to [take things] to dye. Even now we dye our own,

impf neg exist

then med adv

nowhere adv

where interr

comp

dye 2sg pres I

but

and

now adv

dat refl clt

dye 1pl pres I

111 (b) [3:20] Yes.

yes

да

112 (a) [3:20] And when you feel like it, and when you have time,

and

when rel

dat refl clt

dat 2sg clt

come 3sg pres P

and

when rel

dat refl clt

have 2sg pres I

time sg n

113 (a) [3:23] you’ll still do your own dyeing.

again adv

fut

dat refl clt

dye 2sg pres I

114 (MM) Yes, yes, yes.

yes

yes

yes

115 (a) [3:25] Where are you going to go? In the old days there wasn’t anywhere to go.

where interr

comp

go 2sg pres P

one sg n adj

time sg n

neg exist

where interr

neg exist

where interr

comp

go 2sg pres P

116 (a) [3:28] Who would dye for you, and where? Fortunately some dyers would come by

which sg m interr

comp

dat 2sg clt

dye 3sg pres P

and

from.where adv

good adv

pass 3pl impf I

thus med adv

dyer pl m

117 (b) [3:32] And they bring the dyes.

and

bring 3pl pres I

dye pl f

118 (a) [3:32] Gypsy women, other [groups], a third [group], you’d get dye [from them], you do the dyeing

gypsy.woman pl f

other pl adj

third.group pl adj

and

take 2sg pres I

dye sg f

and

dat refl clt

dye 2sg pres I

119 (a) [3:35] and make something so you’ve got [clothes] to wear.

and

dat refl clt

make 2sg pres P

something sg n

comp

dat refl clt

pres exist

comp

acc refl clt

dress 2sg pres P

120 (MM) Yes, yes, yes, yes.

yes

yes

yes

yes

121 (a) [3:39] We’d make “aba” (coarse homespun). Yes, [it’s] from the black wool

domestic pl adj

felt pl f

dat refl clt

make 1pl impf I

black pl def adj

wool pl f

dat refl clt

again adv

122 (a) [3:42] [that] coarse homespun is made, and [from that] trousers for the men.

make sg f P.part I

felt sg f

domestic sg f adj

for

man pl m def

trouser pl m

123 (b) [3:44] For trousers.

for

trouser sg m

124 (MM) Right.

takà

thus adv

така

125 (a) [3:46] Ah –

disc

126 (b) [3:46] From black wool.

with

black sg f adj

wool sg f

127 (a) [3:47] I wouldn’t buy [any] from the store. Where would I find it? Nowhere!

impf neg exist

comp

buy 1sg pres P

from

store sg m def

from.where adv

fut

find 1sg pres P

pres neg exist

from.where adv

128 (a) [3:51] You’d get yourself in gear, spin it fine on the spinning wheel, spin it,

and

fasten sg imv I

acc refl clt

again adv

spin sg imv I

spinning.wheel sg m def

thin adv

spin sg imv I

129 (a) [3:54] glue it – steam it again with flour so the homespun won’t tear.

glue sg imv I

again adv

steam 2sg pres P

with

flour sg n

felt sg f def

comp

neg

acc refl clt

tear 3sg pres I

130 (b) [3:58] If it gets cracks [in it].

when conj

acc refl clt

crack 3sg pres P

131 (a) [3:59] On each layer [you put] a handful of flour – rye flour,

this sg n med adj

each sg m adj

row sg m

one f sg adj

handful sg f

flour sg n

rye sg n adj

flour sg n

132 (a) [4:02] made from rye. You stir it up like porridge, you stir and stir,

from

rye sg f def

stir 2sg pres P

porridge sg f

stir 2sg pres P

stir 2sg pres P

133 (a) [4:06] and then pour it into the water. And [then] you put the yarn to soak…

and

acc n 3sg clt

pour 2sg pres P

water sg f def

and

soak 2sg pres P

yarn pl f def

134 (MM) Right –

takà

thus adv

така

135 (a) [4:10] … so that it gets a little stiff. And then you put it on the warp

little adv

comp

harden 3sg pres P

and

after

this sg n med adj

acc n 3sg clt

put 2sg pres I

acc n 3sg

for

warp sg f

136 (a) [4:13] and the other [= non-stiffened yarn] you weave as the woof.

and

other sg n def adj

again adv

weave 2sg pres I

for

woof sg m

137 (a) [4:16] [In my time] I would weave forty or fifty meters of coarse black homespun at a time

forty

fifty

meter ct m

1sg pres aux clt

weave sg f L.part I

domestic sg f adj

felt sg f

black sg f adj

138 (MM) Huh.

hə

bkch

ха

139 (a) [4:20] All [of them] were –

all indcl

3pl impf cop

all pl def adj

140 (b) [4:21] Umhm [that’s right]

əmhəm

disc

141 (a) [4:21] – [all] our men’s trousers [were] made out of it.

male pl def adj

our pl def adj

trousers pl m

142 (a) [4:22] Well, what [else] are you going to do?

disc

what sg n interr

fut

do 2sg pres I

143 (a) [4:23] At that time only the Tramp folk here – there were the old-fashioned "shivachi" (tailors) –

then med adv

Trampite pl name

only adv

here adv

one pl adj

people pl

impf exist

old.time pl adj

tailor pl m

144 (b) [4:26] A "terzija” (tailor).

terzìjə

tailor sg m

терзия

145 (a) [4:27] Right, the "terzija" Tramposki. People went there to have [the trousers] sewn.

disc

tailor sg m def

Trampuski sg m name

there adv

go 3pl impf I

comp

acc 3pl clt

sew 3pl pres I

146 (b) [4:29] Uh huh.

əә̀

bkch

147 (a) [4:31] Ah, we suffered a lot in the old days. A lot.

disc

suffer 1pl impf I

acc refl clt

much adv

time sg n def

much adv

148 (MM) But you were able to do everything [for yourselves].

but

everything sg n adj

2pl pres aux clt

can pl L.part I

comp

do 2pl pres I

149 (a) [4:36] Yes, we can. And even now I – even now if the occasion came up,

disc

can 1pl pres I

and

now adv

dat 1sg clt

now adv

comp

dat 1sg clt

acc refl clt

give 3sg pres P

150 (a) [4:39] I would do it myself.

and

now adv

fut

dat refl clt

do 1sg pres I

151 (MM) Yes.

dà

yes

да

152 (a) [4:40] All those instruments sit there, they’re all there for you,

all pl def adj

instruments pl m

dat refl clt

sit 3pl pres I

everything sg n adj

dat refl clt

dat 2sg clt

sit 3sg pres I

153 (a) [4:42] you can do it.

and

can pres imprs

comp

acc n 3sg clt

do sg pres I

154 (b) [4:44] [laughter]

[...]

155 (a) [4:45] The times push [you]. I tell you, what can you do?

time sg n def

drive 3sg pres I

what sg n interr

comp

do sg pres I

comp

dat 2sg clt

say 1sg pres P

156 (a) [4:48] Time itself pushes you: it leads you [forward].

push 3sg pres I

very sg n def adj

time sg n

dat refl clt

acc 2sg clt

lead 3sg pres I

157 (MM) That’s exactly right. Just so.

exactly adv

thus adv

3sg pres cop clt

exactly adv

thus adv

158 (a) [4:50] It leads you [forward].

lead 3sg pres I

dat refl clt

acc 2sg clt

159 (MM) So. And didn’t – didn’t you take the homespun to the “valyavitsa” (fuller)?

O.K. adv

felt sg f def

neg

3sg pres cop clt

fulling.mill sg f

neg

[...]

160 (a) [4:54] We take it to Dospat.

carry 1pl pres I

acc f 3sg clt

again adv

Dospat sg m place

161 (MM) [Ah], there was [one] there.

there adv

impf exist

162 (a) [4:56] There is. We call it “tupavitsa”.

pres exist

fulling.mill sg f

dat m 3sg clt

call 1pl pres I

163 (b) [4:57] “Tupavitsa”.

tupàvicə

fulling.mill sg f

тепавица

164 (MM) Ah, “tupavitsa”. Ahh.

disc

tupàvica

fulling.mill sg f

тепавица

à

disc

165 (a) [4:58] Down to the "tupavitsa" (fuller). That’s where they also full

fulling.mill sg f

ost

now adv

there adv

acc f 3sg clt

full 3pl pres I

and

166 (a) [5:01] homemade bags. We weave smaller homemade bags, also out of woolen.

domestic pl adj

bag pl f

dat refl clt

weave 1pl pres I

bag pl f

domestic pl adj

woolen pl adj

again adv

167 (MM) Ah?!

ɤ̀

excl

168 (a) [5:05] Like these trousers here, multicolored.

ost

thus med adv

trousers sg m def

dapple sg n P.part P

169 (b) [5:07] Multicolored.

šàrenu

multicolored sg n adj

шарен

170 (MM) Uh huh, uh huh.

bkch

bkch

bkch

171 (b) [5:08] Black and white.

white sg n adj

and

black sg n adj

172 (a) [5:09] Black and white, whichever suits you.

white sg n adj

and

black sg n adj

which sg n rel adj

dat 2sg clt

suit 3sg pres P

173 (MM) And there were those colors too.

and

[...]

such pl adj

color pl m

3pl impf cop

174 (b) [5:12] Yes.

dà

yes

да

175 (a) [5:12] Bags of those colors.

such pl med adj

color pl m

bag pl f

176 (b) [5:13] They didn’t use any others.

other pl adj

neg

put 3pl impf I

177 (a) [5:15] And you weave up black and white coarse homespun [for] bags

and

weave 2sg pres P

dat refl clt

felt pl f def

white sg f def adj

black sg f def adj

bag pl f def

178 (a) [5:18] and then it’s off to Dospat. You take them down there on horseback

hort

and

Dospat sg m place

with

horse sg m def

fut

acc 3pl clt

drive 2sg pres P

there adv

179 (a) [5:22] for them to full them, for them to – do them up

comp

acc 3pl clt

full 3pl pres P

comp

acc 3pl clt

full 3pl pres P

comp

acc 3pl clt

[ ... ]

arrange 3pl pres P

180 (a) [5:24] and then you take them back again …

and

dat refl clt

acc 3pl clt

take 2sg pres I

again adv

back adv

181 (b) [5:25] So you can work –

comp

can pres imprs

comp

work 2sg pres I

182 (a) [5:26] … for them to full them.

comp

acc 3pl clt

full 3pl pres P

183 (b) [5:27] They dry them up nicely so you can –

dry 3pl pres I

nicely adv

comp

can pres imprs

184 (MM) Yes, yes, yes, yes.

yes

yes

yes

yes

185 (a) [5:29] And then you bring them here and stretch them out on oak beams.

and

and

then med adv

here adv

bring 3pl pres P

again adv

acc 3pl clt

stretch 2sg pres P

with

beech sg n adj

wood sg n

186 (MM) Right –

tɤ̀j

thus adv

тъй

187 (a) [5:32] You hang them up along the balcony or down the side of the house – wherever comes first …

hang 2sg pres P

acc 3pl clt

along

balcony sg f def

down adv

along

house sg f def

where interr

come 3sg pres P

188 (b) [5:36] [With] weights so they’ll stretch –

weight sg f

comp

acc refl clt

stretch 3pl pres P

189 (a) [5:36] … and you stretch them out [with] weights –

and

stretch 2sg pres P

weight sg f

190 (MM) Right –

tɤ̀j

thus adv

тъй

191 (b) [5:38] So the coarse homespun will stretch out ...

felt sg f def

comp

acc refl clt

stretch 3sg pres P

192 (MM) The coarse homespun.

abɤ̀ta

felt sg f

аба

193 (a) [5:39] With weights so the homespun will sag ...

with

weight sg f

comp

can 3sg pres I

hes

sag 3sg pres P

felt sg f def

194 (b) [5:40] ... so it’ll get thinner.

and

comp

acc refl clt

thin.out 3sg pres P

195 (a) [5:41] and get thin, so it will stretch out

comp

become 3sg pres P

thin sg f adj

comp

become 3sg pres P

stretch sg f P.part P

изпъна

196 (a) [5:44] so that the tailor can sew it better –

comp

comp

can 3sg pres I

comp

sew 3sg pres I

tailor sg m def

nicely adv

197 (a) [5:46] so it can be sewn up nicely,

disc

comp

dat m 3sg clt

acc refl clt

sew 3sg pres I

nicely adv

198 (MM) And –

vè

[ ... ]

199 (a) [5:48] otherwise it’ll be rough-edged, all wrinkled.

otherwise adv

become 3sg pres I

angular sg f adj

become 3sg pres I

wrinkle pl f

200 (MM) Yes, yes.

yes

да

yes

да

201 (a) [5:51] But this way it gets to be fully stretched out and smooth.

and

thus med adv

dense adv

stretch sg f P.part P

smooth sg f adj

become 3sg pres P

thus med adv

202 (RA) Hmm.

bkch

203 (a) [5:54] In the old days there weren’t irons or [anything] you could iron with.

one sg n adj

time sg n

impf neg exist

iron pl f

with

what sg n inter.rel

comp

acc refl clt

iron 3pl pres I

204 (a) [5:57] Whether or not trousers got wrinkled, you’ll deal with it

trousers sg m def

interr

3sg pres cop clt

wrinkle sg m P.part P

interr

neg

fut

adapt 2sg pres I

205 (a) [6:00] and [just] move on. No [other] way.

fut

walk 2sg pres I

neg exist

manner sg m

206 (MM) Hey you! That’s too much noise!

excl

much adv

noise sg m

adrs

207 (a) [6:02] What can you do. [Hey] kids!

fut

walk 2sg pres I

child pl n

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Sŭrnica 2

1 (MM) And what work did you do in the forest?

2 (MM) Was it only the men who went to work up in the forest?

3 (a) [0:07] Well, the men worked. Earlier on they carried [off] lumber to Yundula,

4 (b) [0:09] They –

5 (a) [0:10] in the woods.

6 (b) [0:10] The women planted saplings.

7 (a) [0:11] And we women planted saplings.

8 (a) [0:13] I’ve [often] gone out doing such planting. I would go out for planting most of all.

9 (a) [0:16] But in the winter there wasn’t any work. In the winter [you stay] inside,

10 (a) [0:19] until you spin up all the flax, do all the weaving, make fabric

11 (a) [0:23] for the children, bleach it in the river, pound it with clubs

12 (a) [0:27] and then bleach it till it’s soft, till it’s clean,

13 (a) [0:30] and all that, then you dry it, so that – that you can dress …

14 (b) [0:34] and they set it aside –

15 (a) [0:34] ... the children.

16 (b) [0:35] They weave homemade fabric.

17 (MM) Yes.

18 (a) [0:37] Homemade fabric. You know? That’s what we were busy with.

19 (b) [0:39] From flax.

20 (MM) Yes, yes, yes.

21 (a) [0:39] Because the women [worked] the flax.

22 (MM) So flax grew here. It took root here.

23 (a) [0:43] It did, it did.

24 (MM) It grew [here].

25 (a) [0:44] Really nice flax grew here.

26 (MM) Do you still plant it? Or not?

27 (b) [0:47] Nope.

28 (a) [0:47] Well now – up till now, you know, things were different –

29 (MM) Yes.

30 (a) [0:49] state-owned. And now – from now on [someone should] develop it for the future.

31 (MM) Yes.

32 (a) [0:54] Some people will [certainly] start to sow it again.

33 (MM) Yes. And wool – how do you process that?

34 (a) [1:00] Wool?

35 (MM) Yes.

36 (a) [1:01] Well, you know, you take it to the cauldron, to …

37 (b) [1:03] To the river.

38 (a) [1:03] … to the trough there, to the washing place and you steam it.

39 (MM) Right.

40 (a) [1:08] One fleece at a time, from a single sheep.

41 (MM) Ah, and why do you steam it?

42 (a) [1:10] [We put] a sack [of wool] to boil in the cauldron to get rid of the “sera”

43 (MM) Ah – the “sera”?

44 (a) [1:14] The grease. You steam the wool like that so the “sera” (grease) will come out,

45 (a) [1:19] After that you throw it into the cold trough again …

46 (b) [1:22] You wash this –

47 (a) [1:23] so it gets all washed through again.

48 (MM) Yes.

49 (a) [1:25] And after that you put another fleece from [another] sheep in the cauldron.

50 (a) [1:28] Whether ten or twenty fleeces of wool, they all

51 (a) [1:32] get done one by one. You process them [all] in hot water

52 (a) [1:37] and after that you wash them in cold water

53 (a) [1:40] as much as you want.

54 (MM) Yes. And [what] about the dyeing?

55 (a) [1:49] For the dyeing you get dyes from gypsy women, and we [also] get lemon salt

56 (a) [1:55] Again you set the cauldron up here in the yard, and you dye them.

57 (MM) The –

58 (a) [1:58] [You dye] the yarn [to be] whatever [color] you want.

59 (MM) Ah, it’s the yarn that you dye.

60 (a) [2:00] It’s the yarn we dye. Green, or blue, or red, or orange, whatever [you want].

61 (b) [2:05] One at a time.

62 (a) [2:06] Whatever [color] of yarn you want, you fix up the cauldron [again] and dye it.

63 (a) [2:09] You dye one, take it out, dye the next, and [that’s how] we do the dyeing.

64 (b) [2:14] And they used to dye with “kamenyok” (lichen) too.

65 (MM) What?

66 (a) [2:16] And when the weather is rainy we go out and gather “kamenyok” from rocks.

67 (MM) What is this “kamenyok”?

68 (b) [2:20] It’s the same as mallow [grass], [but taken] off of rocks.

69 (a) [2:20] On top of a rock, “kamenyok”.

70 (b) [2:22] It grows on rocks.

71 (a) [2:24] It’s sort of like a crust on top of the rock,